
Evolution of a New Atheist
Recent events in global politics seem to have brought the spit-flecked anti-Islamic radicalism of the New Atheists out into the open. Dawkins has had a bit of a thing about Ahmed Mohamed that is perhaps a little strange, but his most recent tweet drawing some kind of weird parallel between Mohamed and some poor child in Syria who was forced/brainwashed into beheading a soldier is really kind of off. Meanwhile in a podcast Sam Harris announced that he would rather vote for Ben Carson than Noam Chomsky because Ben Carson understands more about the Middle East.
Vicious, slightly unhinged attacks on children, and voting for a religious madman because he would keep out religious madmen seem like prima facie evidence for some kind of fevered new level of anger, so is it the case that the New Atheists are finally letting the mask slip, and revealing their prejudices in their full, naked glory? Harris is apparently an atheist but he would vote for an avowed born again christian who is completely immune to facts and probably wants to force the end of separation of church and state: when you vote for someone who is anathema to all your fundamental beliefs because of one specific policy you are signalling your policy preferences very clearly. Meanwhile, Dawkins is just … whatever he was trying to say with that tweet, it wasn’t pretty. Have recent events finally caused them to lose it?
Just recently I wrote an angry post about the Church of England trying to invade my leisure time, so in the interests of balance I think it’s only fair that I have a go at the New Atheists, who I find just as annoying in their own special way, though ultimately I think they’ll be far less influential than the current Archbishop of Canterbury. By the New Atheists I mean that crew of sciency types who publish books about how terrible religion is and affect to be experts on all things religious: people like Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, the late Christopher Hitchens, PZ Myers. Although I don’t doubt their atheism, I think they aren’t really acting first and foremost as atheists. Rather, I think they’re establishment scientists reacting in a particularly atavistic way to two kinds of insurrection that really make them feel threatened: the American vulgarist insurrection against science, which is primarily (but not only) driven by fundamentalist Christianity; and the Middle Eastern reaction against colonialism and imperialism, which has sadly shifted from a politically nationalist framework to an avowedly religious framework. The former threatens them intellectually and the latter threatens their identity, so they react viscerally. But in their visceral reaction I don’t think they’re acting against religion generally, and I think their visceral reaction is not a good thing for atheism. Even if they weren’t straight up reactionaries, I think they make poor spokespeople for atheism (to the extent that atheism is a movement of any kind). Here I would like to give a few reasons why.
The New Atheists will never change anything
In attacking Islam so vociferously, the New Atheists have chosen an easy target, but they aren’t going to change anything in Islam, and in any case they can’t even change Christianity. They don’t live in majority Islamic countries, so they’re in no position to make any changes to Islam; and by aligning themselves so closely with the Islamophobia of the religious/militarist right in the USA they instantly render any serious critique they have of Islam inaudible. In any case, Islam is not a monolithic entity like the Catholic church, it has no central leaders or doctrines, so there is no single force they can bend to their prodigious will. But even within their own Christian countries they’ll never effect any change because they’re going about it completely the wrong way. Religions can be institutionally monolithic, like the Catholic church or the Church of England, but they’re also diffuse and incredibly culturally resilient. You can’t change a religion by standing outside it yelling at it, because a strong religion is composed of both a powerful religious institution and a plurality of supporters, who are in a constant cultural tension with that leadership but identify strongly with what that leadership represents. Religions don’t change because people yell at them because changing a religion requires simultaneously changing its intellectual leadership and its adherents. The best way to change a religion is to slowly move all of society forward, through technological, scientific and cultural advances, and then watch the religion catch up. It’s slow, hard, dirty work, the kind of work you don’t get accolades for and can’t distill into self-aggrandizing tweets, but that’s how religions change. Perhaps the best secular example of this is the relationship between labour unions and labour parties in the early part of the last century in countries like Australia and the UK. To change policy in those environments you had to be active in the union, working at the grassroots, but also active in the elite system of the unions and its associated mass politics. People like Bob Hawke and Gough Whitlam emerged from that environment and they were formidable intellectuals with a very practical understanding of both the levers and the limits of power. Of course, the New Atheists aren’t going to have much of a sense of class politics, so they probably don’t have a clue about the secular equivalents of what they’re dealing with, either.
Furthermore, it’s often the case that the leading agents of change are people within the religion – your Martin Luthers and Gandhis – not angry outsiders. One hundred years from now, when Islam has moved forward to wherever it’s going, people will look back and say “look at that Turkish dude who reformed education in the 21st century” and “how about that Sudanese chick who campaigned against genital mutilation”. No one will be thanking Richard Dawkins for tweeting a picture of an ISIS child soldier brutalizing and being brutalized[1]. These people will never change anything.
Scientists are not good Atheists
There’s a kind of intellectual arrogance in the “elite” branches of science – physics, biochemistry, some parts of evolutionary biology – in which they believe that they can enter any other field of human endeavour and just pwn it with their superb intellectual skills. This is visible at its most nakedly ugly in the behavior of those cosmologists who think they are going to disprove (or discover!) god, and those terrible nuclear bomb makers who turned the whole thing into a sick parody of childbirth. But in this case it means that scientists are entering a world that is very unscientific, that has a completely different language and culture, and trying to understand it in terms that make sense to scientists, and thinking they can. This is why they seem to think that religions are anti-science because their books are kooky, and they think they can effect change through logical debate built on attacking the principles of those books. In science you look at founding principles and build arguments on them; in religion you play fast and loose with founding principles in pursuit of a story (or something; I’m not really au fait with how this stuff works). Yelling at people and claiming to be able to understand the way their religion works because you’re used to logical thinking is not going to get you very far. Laughing at silly origin stories (7 days! ha!) doesn’t get you very far because – newflash – most people don’t give a fuck about how smart you are until they need you to fix their TV and then they’re all like “what do you mean you study geckos?” When you engage with people outside of your field of expertise you need to set aside your field of expertise, or find a way to bring it to the engagement that doesn’t appear arrogant and out of touch. Which brings us to …
The New Atheists are poor scholars
Every field of intellectual inquiry has its own rules, its own language and its own disciplines. You can’t just go into another field of inquiry and start talking about it with the language and discipline of your own field – you’ll misunderstand and get confused. If you talk statistics with a statistician, you need to understand what “consistency” means; if you discuss economics at some point you need to come to terms with their weird and stupid definition of “efficiency”. Believe it or not, religions have their own language and disciplines, and the study of religion is a long-standing and well-respected intellectual field, connected with cultural studies, social science and art theory/history. But the New Atheists don’t give a fuck about that, they just barge on in and start arguing. This is most obvious in Sam Harris’s embarrassing little spanking from Noam Chomsky, where he thought he could engage in debate with one of the preeminent scholars of American foreign policy on the basis of a single reading of just one of his books (“I thought I could read it as a self-contained whole,” what, do you think it’s a Little Golden Book?), without any of the disciplines or scholarly background of international relations. It’s also obvious in the response of scholars of theology to Dawkins’ The God Delusion, which panned it as, for example, work that would make a first year theology student wince[2]. This is what happens when otherwise intelligent, well-educated scientists decide that they can enter into other scholarly debates without the proper debate and, dare I say it, the proper respect. And this is the real problem here: they don’t understand or respect the religious impulse or its history, they don’t respect anyone who believes differently to them, and they base their scholarly approach to religion on this lack of respect for its intellectual origins. This is very, very stupid. For much of human history religion was the wellspring of science, and almost all of our modern intellectual tradition is built on Catholic, Muslim, Jewish[3] or Hindu science. When a scientist goes into their world that scientist is dealing not with weird, kooky idiots who think the world was made in 7 days, but people who understand science and theology, and are comfortable believing in one while working in the other. You can’t knock these people over with second rate arguments about whether god could make a stone so heavy even he couldn’t lift it, and when you try they’ll come back at you with sophisticated discussion of exactly where that question fits into a range of epistemological, ontological and cosmological debates.
These religions didn’t develop through 1000 or 5000 years of history because they had a complete disregard for scholarly endeavour. But the New Atheists approach the mysteries of religion as if they were a first year biology problem. That’s bad scholarship, derived from a lack of respect, which is why I can say that …
They give atheism a bad name
Being an atheist doesn’t mean you think everyone who believes in God is an idiot. Sure, there are some cute jokes about sky fairies and stuff, but they’re rhetorical fluff, not to be confused with the substance of how atheists should (and generally do) approach believers. To me, first and foremost, atheism is about inquiry. I’m fascinated by all this stuff that goes on in this amazing and beautiful world, and that doesn’t just mean I’m interested in what will happen to the polar bears when the ice melts; it also means I want to know what my Muslim colleague thinks about things he maybe didn’t have to think about before he moved to Japan, or what my lapsed Catholic friend thinks about Shinto. It doesn’t mean that I just dismiss all that stuff as dumb-arsed imaginary-friend psychological props. It also doesn’t mean that when I see a member of a certain religion (I’m looking at you Mr. Mohammedan) doing a terrible thing I should immediately decide that all people from that religion are insane arse-hats. But please forgive me if that’s how I interpret the recent behavior of the New Atheists, who seem to have got a real bee in their bonnets about Islam, and are really seriously concerned that it’s the end of civilization. By throwing away their critiques of other religions, siding with religious lunatics, and dropping all pretense at mild manners or rational debate, they make it pretty clear that they have a certain, specific animus against a certain, specific religion. They look, in fact, like racists. Some of them also look like unreconstructed sexists. But in the modern era, they are also the main voice of atheism that most people recognize. Which means that in the public mind they speak for me.
My Muslim colleague is very concerned about the image of Islam that ISIS project. He sometimes talks about it with me – raises the terrible things they have done, tries to talk about how they are perceived by people not like them – and I can see he is worried that I might get a bad idea of his religion from the antics of its worst children. He also makes jokes about his own religion, and is comfortable dealing with the social conflicts living in Japan presents. It’s as if he is just a normal guy trying to get by in this crazy world, who believes some different stuff to me. But to hear Sam Harris’s latest utterings, he’s a monster waiting to blow me up. Or he might be, or something. When people say shit like that about any other group you back away slowly, or you give them hell. But these guys think they’re cool with it, and as the tide of public opinion turns against Islam I guess, increasingly, they will be. But sometime in the future, once ISIS are a bad memory (and they will be!), people will remember that those dudes were atheists, and they will assume that atheism is about racism and hatred or, at best, that it is completely attuned with popular opinion about who the latest bad guys are. Which it isn’t. Atheism is much bigger than that. It is much bigger than this small group of arrogant rich white scientists, and the sooner they let it go and give it back to us the better.
Atheism is not a movement and never will be
At the heart of this is a simple fact that perhaps we didn’t have to think about back when our spokesperson was Bertrand Russell, a man who would never have supported the Iraq war: Atheism is not a movement. It is the antithesis of a movement. It’s a group of people who have quietly decided to go their own way on this spiritual shit. We just don’t do it, but there’s no movement we can form to make that fact public – how can we? We don’t agree on anything! Sure, the Satanists are doing a great job of trolling some Christians in a completely cute and fun way, but they don’t represent us and no one thinks they do. We aren’t A Thing. Sure, sometimes we’d like to be – those atheist bloggers in Bangladesh might not have been killed if they were part of a movement with its own stormtroopers – and being part of a movement has many benefits, but that’s not what Atheism is. In it’s own way it’s as intense and personal as religion, it’s a feeling you have that you can’t project onto anyone else although the best of us will put our case carefully and wait for those we love and care about to maybe feel it, or maybe not. But I think the New Atheists would like us to be a movement, and I think you know who they think should be in charge of that movement.
But I don’t to be part of any movement that turns my inner life into a caricature of itself so they can spit on Muslims and use child soldiers as a rhetorical tool in some kind of shitty twitter war over a fucking clock. I don’t want to be part of any movement whose leaders think they’re intellectually superior to a couple of billion people, and I don’t want to be part of any movement whose representatives would vote for a religious lunatic who’s probably a con artist just because he hates the same people they do.
Once this war on Islam is done – and it will be done, once ISIS are gone, and they will be gone – these New Atheists will discover how fickle their new bedfellows are. When their new anti-Muslim fundamentalist christian friends kick them out, don’t welcome them back. Tell them they sold themselves cheap, and they can be footsoldiers in someone else’s intellectual battle. Atheism doesn’t need them, and neither do the religious people they think they’re helping.
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fn1: Seriously WTF were you thinking, dude? Have you been following the movement against child soldiers, are you aware of what a complex, cruel and brutal thing the recruiting and enslavement of child soldiers is? Do you understand that the media have conventions about showing child victims? When the BBC interviews child soldiers they pixelate their faces. What were you thinking, comparing an American kid to a child soldier in the act of beheading someone? Do you have any respect at all for human dignity?
fn2: Read that review. That is how reviews are done.
fn3: Noam Chomsky, for example, grew up in a Jewish tradition heavily steeped in Jewish intellectualism.
November 26, 2015 at 11:51 pm
The triumph of freedom is not a foregone conclusion.
We see the gathering of Christian fundamentalist forces in America.
Imagine them grabbing the reins.
Already fundamentalist Islamic forces have grabbed part of Syria.
Most sensible people want to live in a free democracy. Millions of Christians and Muslims just doff their caps to religion and carry on with their lives but they don’t rule the world.
We have two other very serious problems in the stewing pot.
Climate change and antibiotic resistance, largely ignored while the scientific elite gaze into outer space.
Even moderate politicians are bent on getting votes not solving problems.
November 28, 2015 at 6:27 pm
On the review you linked at:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n20/terry-eagleton/lunging-flailing-mispunching
you said “fn2: Read that review. That is how reviews are done.”
But I have to wonder how Terry Eagleton reviews books critiquing homoeopathy. Instead of:
“What, one wonders, are Dawkins’s views on the epistemological differences between Aquinas and Duns Scotus? Has he read Eriugena on subjectivity, Rahner on grace or Moltmann on hope?”
would he say:
“What, one wonders, are the authors views on the epistemological differences between random water pusher 1 and no active ingredients seller 2? Has he spoken to my mum on how her lumbago improved, Rahner on patient experiences or Moltmann on the benefits of hope?”
Alternatively, would you accept a critique of a global warming booking that spoke glowingly of skeptics views in it’s review?
The comes a point in debate where there is so little common ground that the quality and engagement of the debate would not get any worse if the participants were speaking entirely separate languages – which they in fact are in this case.
I haven’t read the God Delusion, but reading this review quickly explains that the reviewer has no useful review to give on the book. He dislikes it because its assumptions radically disagree with his.
That said aggressive atheists are both being assholes and being utterly ineffectual when they try to push atheism down someone else’s throat. And I readily believe Dawkins has some crappy arguments in his book, but I wouldn’t trust this reviewer to be able to spot the ones that I’d think were dodgy.
November 28, 2015 at 8:24 pm
” thought he could engage in debate with one of the preeminent scholars of American foreign policy on the basis of a single reading of just one of his books (“I thought I could read it as a self-contained whole,” what, do you think it’s a Little Golden Book?),”
What? You, personally, believe that Lord of the Rings is racist, but for Chomsky you’ve got to read his back catalogue before you’re allowed to have an opinion? Do you not see a disconnect there?
Or is it only when insulting dead white males that we can determine they are some form of -ist without allowing defence? Because Noam Chomsky (and you and I) will all fall into that group soon enough…
November 28, 2015 at 9:12 pm
Thanks for commenting kaptonok. It could be said that I am too optimistic – if it’s true that the crises in North Africa and the Middle East are partly the fault of climate change (which claim I’m willing to credit) then it may be that these areas never return to normality and the chaos there will become a permanent state, in which case my optimism that “Islamic State” or similar groups will disappear may be misplaced. As regards many of climate changes worst consequences, I hope that my optimism is not misplaced.
Paul, re: the review, my recommendation in that footnote wasn’t intended as an endorsement of the logic of the review, just its writing and combative style. Indeed, the second half involves an extended defense of various hocus pocus that I’m not particularly interested in. But there are some delicious asides (the “apparently human” Al Gore, for example) that make it very entertaining.
But to engage with your point, the defense you’re giving is one that Dawkins has also used and I think in some aspects of atheist/religious debate it’s valid. For example, we don’t need to listen to religious waffle about creationism or the ark because these are scientifically verifiable facts and we don’t need to understand some arts-school waffle (or respect it) to talk about this. But my understanding of The God Delusion is that only four chapters are devoted to this stuff, and the rest of the book is about the moral implications of religious belief and the relationship between believers and their faith. In engaging with this kind of stuff you’re moving beyond science and into social science, arts and philosophy, and I think it is important to understand the language and theories of these areas before engaging with them. If we can boil it down to a couple of New Atheist twitter soundbites (twats) for simplicity, arguments like “Why don’t all muslims disavow extremism” or “born again christians need to come to terms with their extremist members” are not fundamentally scientific disputes. If you read reviews of The God Delusion you’ll find people arguing that Dawkins has variously misunderstood or misrepresented Dostoyevsky, the history of authoritarianism in Europe, TH Huxley’s position relative to christian abolitionists during reconstruction, and a bunch of other aspects of history and social science that are crucial to his interpretation of various issues about the morality of religion and how religion should engage with science (and what religion and science are separately culpable for). These misunderstandings are fundamental to his positions not on science and the existence of god, but on the social and moral values of religion and religious people. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect critics of religion to understand the history and literature they’re referencing when they argue against particular moral stances, but it appears Dawkins thought he didn’t need to (he even seems to misunderstand Russell, if you believe the reviews, which is terrible since Russell is the pre-eminent philosopher of atheism).
(For the record I’m thoroughly uninterested in atheist writing about how there is no God. That stuff is trivial and boring, I know what I believe and I don’t need to read more on the issue. But the topic of the morality and history of religion is a deep and fascinating one, which I sometimes like to read about, but I think if you’re going to approach it critically you need to respect the disciplines that are generally used to analyze it and not assume that because you are a good biologist you are therefore also a good historian).
Regarding your attack on my (perfect, unimpeachable) critique of Tolkien, I really don’t think it’s fair. I provide a reading of Tolkien based on his five core books with some reference to secondary material (the movies, some critical commentary on Tolkien, the RPG), and I don’t pretend to be debating directly with the Big Guy himself. Harris went to a debate with Chomsky having read one book, part of an oeuvre that probably eclipses Tolkien’s for its depth and breadth (incidentally I think Chomsky’s linguistic work is completely in opposition to Tolkien’s). He tried to start a debate with Chomsky without having read Manufacturing Consent, Deterring Democracy or even the Chomsky Reader. This is perhaps equivalent to me trying to start a debate with Tolkien about his sexism based on his treatment of Galadriel in The Silmarillion, having only read the chapter where she crosses the land bridge, and having not read any of The Lord of the Rings. [This reminds me I still haven’t written my blog post about how Tolkien was a feminist; read my “about his sexism” here as indicative of someone engaging in a ridiculous argument on limited evidence]. I think we can both agree that had I done that, I would be a bit of a dickhead. However, unlike Sam Harris in his engagement with Chomsky, I believe I have shown Tolkien’s work the respect it deserves, engaging with the core of his works and making some attempt to access secondary work from a variety of perspectives despite the fact that this is merely a second rate blog. It’s true I haven’t read and reread every single part of the Books of Lost Tales and it’s been a long time since I read The Silmarillion but really I think it’s unreasonable to compare the shallowness of Harris’s preparation with my blog posts on Tolkien. I mean really, if I went to a debate with Tolkien about his racism having not read The Lord of the Rings you might have a valid comparison, but I’ve shown the Big Guy more respect than that!
November 30, 2015 at 8:33 am
“Regarding your attack on my (perfect, unimpeachable) critique of Tolkien, I really don’t think it’s fair. I provide a reading of Tolkien based on his five core books with some reference to secondary material (the movies, some critical commentary on Tolkien, the RPG), and I don’t pretend to be debating directly with the Big Guy himself”
But the Hobbit, LotR and Silmarillion are basically one story or three at most if we’re generous. So it’s excluding all the material on his broader thoughts. Unless Chomsky included a note at the start of his book saying “Before reading this, make sure you ready Manufacturing Consent, it’s required for the arguments here to make sense” then it’s reasonable to assume that a noted critical thinker will be able to explain himself without forcing his reader to pick up any reference material deeper than his wikipedia page.
And that’s ignoring that when commenting on world affairs it’s perfectly acceptable to change your mind. Saying “I’ve had a range of opinions of the years and my readers are required to track which ones I still hold” is purest nonsense.
The only thing worse than that would be saying “I’ve held opinions over the years and I’m incapable of changing them, therefore I won’t bother repeating them.” – That crap is only a valid stance for Fox News! (That’s not a compliment).
December 1, 2015 at 2:10 pm
It’s not my fault that Tolkien only wrote one story! My purpose in analyzing Tolkien was not to dispute the moral implications of his political theory for real life practice (unlike the BNP, I did not intend to use his stories to create a model racial utopia); rather, I’m just doing textual analysis. For this I only need to analyze the text and any secondary sources that might be relevant to interpretation of the content of the text. Sam Harris was approaching Chomsky to debate the implications of his work for a theory of atheist interventionism – for this he needs to draw on a full enough body of work to explore the implications, not just pluck one document late in the career and proceed to misunderstand a fundamental point of it that is more fully explored in earlier work (and built on in the cited work).
Otherwise I could dismiss the entirety of Dawkins’s oeuvre from one tweet about a clock!
December 1, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Also, how sweet of you to concede the possibility that Chomsky might change his mind!
December 1, 2015 at 7:56 pm
“Otherwise I could dismiss the entirety of Dawkins’s oeuvre from one tweet about a clock!”
Well, you could certainly dismiss that particular tweet about a clock, which is what Harris seems to have been arguing over (I didn’t bother reading the entire email chain, it looked dull and the last couple of emails between them confirmed they thought it was dull too).
December 2, 2015 at 2:30 pm
My reading of that email exchange is that Harris wants to draw an inference about Chomsky’s general theory about international politics, and how we should use it to understand the best response to the twin towers. It’s not a specific criticism of a specific point about that incident but an attempt to open up a general debate about moral equivalence between Islamic terrorism and western military adventures. You can’t do that from a single book because no single book captures Chomsky’s complete theory of international politics. He starts off the correspondence by saying
and then introduces a specific article he once wrote as a starting point for discussion. He does not say “I want to discuss your book 9/11” or “I want to discuss your opinion of this one article.” He then admits, when challenged,
Note the tense there. He hadn’t read anything else when he wrote a general treatise on “leftist unreason” in 2004, and he didn’t bother to read it subsequently before deciding to engage Chomsky in a debate on a sweeping topic in which Chomsky is generally recognized as a leading intellectual figure with a large body of work. Neither his 2004 article nor his attempt at debate are restricted to the single topic covered in the book 9/11, but he seems to think he can give a general thesis on “leftist unreason” and the hypocrisy of Chomsky’s theories about “terrorism, war and ethics” based on book. For example in the 2004 article he picks on Chomsky’s aside referring to the Al Shifa attack but doesn’t bother to find out what Chomsky actually wrote about why it is morally equivalent to the 9/11 attacks. He then attempts to engage Chomsky on his “mistakes” about moral equivalence and the importance of intent, without having read the material where Chomsky discusses the role of intent.
That is not serious scholarship and Chomsky is quick to point this out.