In early March, when COVID-19 was starting to spread in the UK, the government announced a strategy of “herd immunity” in which they would shield vulnerable people (such as older people and people with pre-existing conditions) from the disease, and aim to slowly allow the rest of the country to be infected up to some proportion of the population. This policy was based on the idea that once the disease had infected a certain proportion of the population then this would mean it had naturally been able to achieve herd immunity, and after that would die out. The basics of the strategy and its timeline are summarized here. This strategy was an incredibly dangerous, stupid and reckless strategy that was built on a fundamental failure to understand what herd immunity is, and some really bad misconceptions about the dynamics of this epidemic. Had they followed this policy the entire UK population would have been infected, and everyone in the UK would have lost at least one of their grandparents. Here I want to explain why this policy is incredibly stupid, and make a desperate plea for people to stop talking about achieving herd immunity by enabling a certain portion of the population to become infected. This idea is a terrible misunderstanding of the way infectious diseases work, and if it takes hold in the public discourse we are in big trouble next time an epidemic happens.
I will explain here what herd immunity is, and follow this with an explanation of what the UK’s “herd immunity” strategy is and why it is bad. I will call this “herd immunity” strategy “Johnson immunity”, because it is fundamentally not herd immunity. I will then present a simple model which shows how incredibly stupid this policy is. After this I will explain what other misconceptions the government had that would have made their Johnson Immunity strategy even more dangerous. Finally I will present a technical note explaining some details about reproduction numbers (the “R” being bandied about by know-nothing journalists at the moment). There is necessarily some technical detail in here but I’ll try to keep it as simple as possible.
What is herd immunity?
Herd immunity is a fundamental concept in infectious disease epidemiology that has always been applied to vaccination programs. Herd immunity occurs when so many people in the population are immune to a disease that were a case of the disease to arise in the population, it would not be able to infect anyone else and so would die out before it could become an epidemic. Herd immunity is linked to the concept of the Basic Reproduction Number, R0. R0 tells us the number of cases that will be generated from a single case of a disease, so for example if R0 is 2 then every person who has the disease will infect 2 other people. Common basic reproduction numbers range from 1.3 (influenza) to about 18 (measles). The basic reproduction number of COVID-19 is probably 4.5, and definitely above 3.
There is a simple relationship between the basic reproduction number and the proportion of the population that need to be vaccinated to ensure herd immunity. This proportion, p, is related to the basic reproduction number by the formula p=1/(1-1/R0). For smallpox (R0~5) we need 80% of the population to be vaccinated to stop it spreading; for measles (R0~18) it is safest to aim for 95%. The reason this works is because the fundamental driver of disease transmission is contact with vulnerable people. If the disease has a basic reproduction number of 5, each case would normally infect 5 people; but if 4 of every 5 people the infected person meets are immune, then the person will only likely infect 1 person before they recover or die (or get isolated). For more infectious diseases we need to massively increase the number of people who are immune in order to ensure that the infection doesn’t spread.
If we vaccinate the correct proportion of the population, then when the first case of a disease enters the population, it’s chances of meeting an infectable person will be so low that it won’t spread – effectively by vaccinating 1-1/R0 people we have reduced its effective reproduction number to 1, at which point each case will only produce 1 new case, and the virus will not spread fast enough to matter. This is the essence of herd immunity, but note that the theory applies when we vaccinate a population before a case enters the population.
What is Johnson Immunity?
There is a related concept to the basic reproduction number, the effective reproduction number Rt, which tells us how infectious the virus currently is. This is tells us how many people each case is infecting at the current state of the epidemic. Obviously as the proportion of the population who have been infected and recovered (and become immune) increases, Rt must drop, since the chance that they will have contact with an infectious person goes down. Eventually the proportion of the population infected will become so large that Rt will hit 1, meaning that now each case is only infecting another case. The idea of Johnson Immunity was that we would allow the virus to spread among only the low-risk population until it naturally reached the proportion of the population required to achieve an Rt value of 1. Then, the virus would be stifled and the epidemic would begin to die. If the required proportion to achieve Rt=1 is low enough, and we can shield vulnerable people, then we can allow the virus to spread until it burns out. This idea is related to the classic charts we see of influenza season, where the number of new infections grows to a certain point and then begins to go down again, even in the absence of a vaccine.
This idea is reckless, stupid and dangerous for several reasons. The first and most serious reason it is dangerous is that the number of daily new infections will rise as we head towards Rt=1, and by the time we reach the point where, say, 60% of the population is infected, the number of daily cases will be huge. At this point Rt=1, so each case is only infecting 1 other case. But if we have 100,000 daily new cases at this point, then the following generation of infections will spawn 100,000 new infections, and so on. If, for example, the virus has an R0 of 2, and takes 5 days to infect the next generation, then the number of new cases doubles every 5 days. After a month we have 64 cases, after two months we have 4100 cases, and so on. By the time we get to 30 million cases, we’ll likely be seeing 100,000 cases in one generation. So yes, now the virus is going to start to slow its spread, but the following generation will still generate 100,000 cases, and the generation after that 90,000, and so on. This is an incredible burden on the health system, and even if death rates are very low – say 0.01% – we are still going to be seeing a huge mortality rate.
The second reason this idea is reckless and stupid is that it is basically allowing the disease to follow its natural course, and for any disease with an R0 above about 1.5, this means it will infect the entire population even after it has achieved its Rt of 1. This happens because the number of daily cases at this point is so large that even if each case only infects 1 additional case, the disease will still spread at a horrific rate. There is an equation, called the final size equation, which links R0 to the proportion of the population that will be infected by the disease by the time it has run its course, and basically for any R0 above 2 the final size equation tells us it will infect the entire population (100% of people) if left unchecked. In practice this means that yes, after a certain period of time the number of new cases will reach a peak and begin to go down, but by the time it finishes its downward path it will have infected the entire population.
A simple model of Johnson Immunity
I built a very simple model in Excel to show how this works. I imagined a disease that lasts two days. People are infected from the previous generation on day 1, infect the next generation and then recover by the end of day 2. This means that if I introduce 1 case on day 1, it will infect R0 cases on day 2, R0*R0 cases on day 3, and so on. This is easy to model in Excel, which is why I did it. Most actual diseases have incubation periods and delayed infection, but modeling these requires more than 2 minutes work in a real stats program, and this is a blog post, so I didn’t bother with such nuance. Nonetheless, my simple disease shows the dynamics of infection. I reclaculated Rt each day for the disease, so that it was reduced by the proportion currently infected or immune, so that for example once 100,000 people are infected and recovered, in a population of 1 million people, the value of Rt becomes 90% of the value of R0. This means that when it reaches its Johnson Immunity threshold the value of Rt will go below 1 and the number of cases will begin to decline. This enables us to see how the disease will look when it reaches the Johnson Immunity threshold, so we can see what horrors we are facing. I assumed no deaths and no births, so I ran the model in a closed population of 1 million people. I ran it for a disease with an R0 of 1.3, 1.7, and 2.5, to show some common possible scenarios. Figure 1 shows the results. Here the x-axis is the number of days since the first case was introduced, and the y-axis is the number of daily new cases. The vertical lines show the day at which the proportion of the population infected, Pi, crosses the threshold 1-1/R0. I put this in on the assumption that the Johnson Immunity threshold will be close to the classical herd immunity threshold (it turns out it’s off by a day or two). The number above the line shows the final proportion of the population that will be infected for this particular value of R0.
As you can see, when R0 is 1.3 (approximately seasonal influenza), we cross the approximate Johnson Immunity threshold at 44 days after the first case, and at this point we have a daily number of cases of about 40,000 people. This disease will ultimately infect 49% of the population. Note how slowly it goes down – for about a week after we hit the Johnson Immunity threshold we are seeing 40,000 or so cases a day.
For a virus with an R0 of 1.7 the situation is drastically worse. We hit the Johnson Immunity threshold after 23 days, and at this point about 140,000 cases a day are being infected. Three days later the peak is achieved, with nearly 200,000 cases a day being infected, before the disease begins a rapid crash. It dies out within a week of hitting the Johnson immunity threshold, but by the time it disappears it has infected 94.6% of the population. That means most of our grandparents!
For a disease with an R0 of 2.5 we hit the Johnson Immunity threshold at day 13, with about 140,000 cases a day, and the disease peaks two days later with 450,000 cases a day. It crashes after that, hitting 0 a day later because it has infected everyone in the population and has no one left to infect.
This shows that for any kind of R0 bigger than influenza, when you reach the Johnson Immunity threshold your disease is infecting a huge number of people every day and is completely out of control. We have shown this for a disease with an R0 of 2.5. The R0 of COVID-19 is probably bigger than 4. In a population of 60 million where we are aiming for a herd immunity threshold of 36 million we should expect to be seeing a million new cases a a week at the point where we hit the Johnson Immunity threshold.
This is an incredibly stupid policy!
Other misconceptions in the policy
The government stated that its Johnson Immunity threshold was about 60% of the population. From this we can infer that they thought the R0 of this disease was about 2.5. However, the actual R0 of this disease is probably bigger than 4. This means that the government was working from some very optimistic – and ultimately wrong – assumptions about the virus, which would have been catastrophic had they seen this policy through.
Another terrible mistake the government made was to assume that rates of hospitalization for this disease would be the same as for standard pneumonia, a mistake that was apparently made by the Imperial College modeling team whose work they seem to primarily rely upon. This mistake was tragic, because there was lots of evidence coming out of China that this disease did not behave like classic pneumonia, but for some reason the British ignored Chinese data. They only changed their modeling when they were presented with Italian data on the proportion of serious cases. This is an incredibly bad mistake, and I can only see one reason for it – they either didn’t know, or didn’t care about, the situation in China. Given how bad this disease is, this is an incredible dereliction of duty. I think this may have happened because the Imperial College team have no Chinese members or connections to China, which is really a very good example of how important diversity is when you’re doing policy.
Conclusion
The government’s “herd immunity” strategy was based on a terrible misunderstanding of how infectious disease dynamics work, and was compounded by significantly underestimating the virulence and deadliness of the disease. Had they pursued the “herd immunity” strategy they would have reached a point where millions of people were being infected daily, because the point in an epidemic’s growth where it reaches Rt=1 is usually the point where it is at its most rapidly spreading, and also its most dangerous. It was an incredibly reckless and stupid policy and it is amazing to me that anyone with any scientific background supported it, let alone the chief scientific adviser. Britain is facing its biggest crisis in generations, and is being led by people who are simply not competent to manage it in any way.
Sadly, this language of “herd immunity” has begun to spread through the pundit class and is now used routinely by people talking about the potential peak of the epidemic. It is not true herd immunity, and there is no sense in which getting to the peak of the epidemic to “immunize” the population is a good idea, because getting to the peak of the epidemic means getting to a situation where hundreds of thousands or millions of people are being infected every week.
The only solution we have for this virus is to lockdown communities, test widely, and isolate anyone who tests positive. This is being done successfully in China, Vietnam, Japan, Australia and New Zealand. Any strategy based on controlled spread will be a disaster, and anyone recommending it should be removed from any decision-making position immediately.
Appendix: Brief technical note
R0 (and Rt) are very important numerical qualities of an infectious disease but they are not easily calculated. They are numbers that emerge from the differential equations we use to describe the disease, and not something we know in advance. There are two ways to calculate them: Empirically from data on the course of disease in individuals, or through dynamic analysis of disease models.
To estimate R0 empirically we obtain data on individuals infected with the disease, so we know when they were infected and when they recovered down to the narrowest possible time point. We then use some statistical techniques related to survival analysis to assess the rate of transmission and obtain statistical estimates for R0.
To estimate R0 from the equations describing the disease, we first establish a set of ordinary differential equations that describe the rates of change of uninfected, infected, and recovered populations. From this system of equations we can obtain a matrix called the Next Generation Matrix, which describes all the flows in and out of the disease states, and from this we can obtain the value of R0 through a method called spectral analysis (basically it is the dominant eigenvalue of this matrix). In this case we will have an equation which describes R0 in terms of the primary parameters in the differential equations, and in particular in terms of the number of daily contacts, the specific infectiousness of the disease when a contact occurs, and the recovery time. We can use this equation to fiddle with some parameters to see how R0 will change. For example, if we reduce the recovery time through treatment, will R0 drop? If we reduce the infectiousness by mask wearing, how will R0 drop? Or if we reduce the number of contacts by lockdowns, how will R0 drop? This gives us tools to assess the impact of various policies.
In the early period of a new infectious disease people try to do rough and ready calculations of R0 based on the data series of infection numbers in the first few weeks of the disease. During this period the disease is still very vulnerable to random fluctuation, and is best described as a stochastic process. It is my opinion that in this early stage all diseases look like they have an R0 of 1.5 or 2, even if they are ultimately going to explode into something far bigger. In this outbreak, I think a lot of early estimates fell into this problem, and multiple papers were published showing that R0 was 2 or so, because the disease was still in its stochastic stage. But once it breaks out and begins infecting people with its full force, it becomes deterministic and only then can we truly understand its infectious potential. I think this means that early estimates of R0 are unreliable, and the UK government was relying on these early estimates. I think Asian governments were more sensible, possibly because they were in closer contact with China or possibly because they had experience with SARS, and were much more wary about under-estimating R0. I think this epidemic shows that it is wise to err on the side of over-estimation, because once the outbreak hits its stride any policies built on low R0 estimates will be either ineffective or, as we saw here, catastrophic.
But whatever the estimate of R0, any assumption that herd immunity can be achieved by allowing controlled infection of the population is an incredibly stupid, reckless, dangerous policy, and anyone advocating it should not be allowed near government!
May 9, 2020 at 1:26 pm
Thank you for addressing this issue so clearly – I just wish I could boil it down to explain to my 9 year old who has picked up on this “herd immunity” misunderstanding and who, for all her precociousness, will probably not be able to follow the mathematics of the problem.
Also, I seriously hope that the term “Johnson immunity” enters the technical lexicon – it would be a fitting epitaph for the man.
May 9, 2020 at 10:27 pm
Thanks for commenting Simon. I’m sure despite her difficulties with the issues, your daughter could do a better job than Johnson. I’m not sure how to explain this to 9 year olds though… if I knew perhaps I could get a job as a SPAD.
May 11, 2020 at 4:18 pm
I’m not sure how much I could explain to a nine-year-old, either, but I have hazy recollections that I had some successes with explaining complex concepts to my daughter when she was in the region of nine years old (she is now twenty-three). What I definitely know I can’t do is suggest an explanation without knowing what the nine-year-old’s current understanding (or misunderstanding) is. Helping somebody to understand something frequently involves an element of dialogue; it’s only after you’ve given the first stage of the explanation that you find out why the other person is disagreeing or not understanding.
For example, you don’t need to perceive the mathematics yourself to understand the statement ‘If we do nothing to slow the spread of the virus, nearly everybody will get infected, and a very large number of people will get infected all at once so that the hospitals can’t cope’, but I don’t know whether there is something which Simon Fowler’s daughter currently thinks is true which might lead her to contradict this statement.
Only slightly more detailed is this statement, ‘The less we do to slow the spread of the virus, the larger the number of people that will end up being infected at some stage, and also the larger the number will be at the stage when the number of infected people is at its highest.’ I’m fairly confident that’s a statement whose meaning could be made clear to a nine-year-old, certainly a precocious one, but understanding its meaning is of course not the same thing as being prepared to accept that it’s true.
May 11, 2020 at 4:30 pm
Incidentally, I am conscious of my ignorance, so there’s surely much I’m missing here, but on the face of it it seems to me that the basic reproduction number of a disease must be a property not only of the disease itself but also of the behaviour of the affected population. For example, if an infection is (excluisvely) sexually transmitted, then the number of people to whom, on average, an infected person will transmit the infection must surely, if I’m not missing something, be related to the average number of sexual partners a member of the population has. In that instance, how could the basic reproduction number not be higher in a highly promiscuous population than in a mostly monogamous population? Again, a disease which happens to be particularly easily transmitted by, for example, handshakes would, unless I’m missing something, be reasonably expected to have a higher basic reproduction number in a society where handshakes were a common cultural practice than in one where they were rare (unless the society in which handshakes were rare had some alternative practice which had a similar likelihood of transmitting this particular disease).
If I read, for example, that the basic reproduction number of measles is around 18, I find myself interpreting that as meaning that the basic reproduction number has been around 18 in those populations in which measles epidemics have been studied, leaving open the theoretical possibility that it might be significantly higher or lower in a population with significantly different behaviour patterns.
But if I’m hopelessly mistaken about this I would appreciate being set right!
May 11, 2020 at 9:23 pm
While I’m shamelessly asking faustusnotes to do my homework for me, I figured I might as well pile another question on top.
In a population where most individuals have been vaccinated against an infection, and the vaccination has a very high degree of effectiveness, it’s going to be very hard for the infection in question to spread, because most of the people with whom an infected individual comes in contact will be immunised-by-vaccination.
In a population where most individuals have been infected, and either died or recovered, so that most of the surviving members of the population are people who have had the infection and recovered, and if having the infection and recovering confers immunity, to a roughly similar extent as a good vaccine, it’s going to be similarly hard for the infection in question to spread further/again, because most of the people with whom an infected individual comes in contact will be immunised-by-survivorship.
Now, if I understand this post correctly, one of the things faustustnotes is saying is that only the first of these scenarios is properly described with the term ‘herd immunity’, and so the second of these scenarios needs some other descriptive term (hence, ‘Johnson immunity’).
On the other hand, if I understand the Wikipedia article with the title ‘herd immunity’ correctly, that term can be applied to both of the scenarios I’ve described.
I’m not citing the Wikipedia article as a decisive refutation of faustusnotes, because I have no expertise in this area, and I know nothing about the expertise of the authors of the Wikipedia article: they may have made basic error as a result of ignorance of the field. I’m only citing it because I’m getting the impression of some significant terminological confusion.
But, regardless of the terminological issue, the two scenarios I’ve described are still different, right? That seems to me to be another point that faustusnotes is making, and one that’s probably more important than the terminological one (although terminology can be important).
In particular, if I’ve understood correctly, a key difference between the two scenarios is that the second one involves a much larger number of people dying, and therefore it’s important not to think about them as if they are more-or-less the same thing.
Once again, if faustusnotes (or anybody else) can explain to me how I’ve got this utterly wrong, it would be much appreciated!
May 11, 2020 at 9:51 pm
J-D, in answer to your first question, yes R0 is heavily dependent on the behavior of the affected population and most especially on the contact rates. With sex this means its most dependent on number of sexual contacts and condom use; with respiratory infections with number of social contacts. Other social factors (e.g. treatment, testing followed by isolation, etc) also affect R0. We also estimate an effective reproduction number, R, which is what the disease becomes as society takes action. And yes, it is possible for diseases to have higher or lower R0 in different societies, but this usually occurs primarily through the actions they take to prevent the epidemic (as far as I know).
I have never read the Wikipedia herd immunity page and yes, it is theoretically possible to achieve herd immunity by infection, but my understanding is that this generally applies to seasonal or periodic infections, so that e.g. a wave of disease passes through a herd and the following year it is immune because of the herd immunity. It is not usually applied (as far as I am aware) to the peak of the epidemic when the disease is still spreading in the community. That is simply the infection peak. But you won’t hear Johnson saying “we need to achieve peak infections” because that sounds unpleasant. Achieving herd immunity during an epidemic while it’s still going on as a policy goal is something I have never heard of, and never seen in any public health textbook. This is because the whole principle of herd immunity rests on the idea that when 1 new cases is added to a population with no current cases, it won’t spread – not that we achieve herd immunity by jacking up the number of cases to huge numbers, so that when we achieve the “herd immunity” threshold the disease is tearing through the population at the rate of 10s of thousands a day. I’ve never seen such a preposterous policy written down in any form and I think it is a crass misunderstanding of the concept!
May 12, 2020 at 6:24 am
Yes, I have seen people in western Europe talking about “achieving herd immunity” without seeming to understand that this would at mean “at least doubling the number of people who die in my country this year over a few months, and making many people I know deathly ill, and then waiting to see if the disease comes back or if infected people are immune.” (I am assuming the 0.5% fatality rate in European populations estimated from the Diamond Princess and Chinese/Singapore/Korean reports)
May 12, 2020 at 9:07 am
Aha! Thanks very much for the additional clarification, which I do appreciate, and I now see that I missed an important distinction which is additional to the one I described previously.
As well as the distinction between ‘immunity as a result of having been vaccinated’ and ‘immunity as a result of having had the infection and recovered’, there is also an important distinction (important at the social level, even if not at the individual level) between ‘immunity as a result of having just recovered from an infection during a current epidemic’ and ‘immunity as a result of having had the infection and recovered during a past epidemic’.
So, if nearly everybody in a population gets the infection this year and either dies or recovers, and if (which I gather is a doubtful point at this stage) recovery from the infection not only confers an immunity but confers a lasting immunity, then next year, as a by-product of that experience, that population could be protected against another epidemic by that immunity (whether or not it’s appropriate to use the term ‘herd immunity’ in that context). But obviously you are right and that does not make this a strategy for dealing with this year’s epidemic: in relation to this year’s epidemic it’s an abdication of strategy, what you do if you decide, in effect, that there’s nothing you can do (whereas, in fact, in this case it’s not a justified conclusion that there’s nothing that can be done).
May 12, 2020 at 11:49 am
Yes vagans, that is exactly what would happen. I think a lot of the people advocating for it (e.g. the stupid lockdown skeptics organization in the UK) believe that the government can magically control the growth of the virus with intermediate policies, and have this kind of magical sense that the virus can be controlled by merely the force of their will. So they honestly believe there is a range of middle grounds between “completely out of control” and “lockdown” that rational people can choose between. This, sadly, is very much not the case, and getting to Johnson Immunity requires a massive death toll.
Yes J-D, it’s unclear to me how “Johnson immunity” is different to “letting the disease do what it wants”. There is some hand-waving about shielding elderly people but this is incredibly difficult to do with a virus this transmissive, and functionally impossible in countries like the UK that are not doing centralized case isolation. Every single person who gets infected on the path to Johnson Immunity is going to be isolating at home with their family, and eventually they’re going to infect an elderly relative. We’ve already seen what this disease is doing to elderly care homes even during a lockdown – it’s inconceivable that it won’t be a million times worse if we let healthy people go about their business in order to get to this magic threshold. It’s an incredibly irresponsible policy.
May 12, 2020 at 9:54 pm
Another point about accepting the disease is that, in the absence of any firm idea about whether a vaccine is achievable or immunity is lasting, one might end up with recurrent waves – a doubling of the usual death rate every few years, with extremely cautious behaviour in between.
And yet another is that a disease with a long asymptomatic period, easily transmitted, can find pockets of uninfected people to circulate in as long as the world remains closely connected. So international travel and tourism may be out of the picture until near-universal vaccination is achieved. That’s a lot of gdp down the drain for years. In short, firm suppression both nationally and internationally is really the only sensible choice at this point.
May 15, 2020 at 9:01 pm
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May 17, 2020 at 12:43 pm
Peter T, I saw there is a new paper in the journal Cell which finds that immunity is conferred by exposure, and also that exposure to other coronaviruses – e.g. the common cold – also may confer immunity. This latter result is very interesting, but it’s likely that such immunity would wear off by summer, so we may see a summer wave.
Also I don’t think the US is quite at a second wave yet, but a lot of states are beginning to see rises in new case numbers just as they open up, and I suspect that we’re going to see cases rising rapidly from now on in the USA. Also the UK opening up again – and debating reopening schools – when they have 3500 new cases a day is just out of control. So stupid. I expect we’ll see a surge there.
Here in Japan we had 52 cases yesterday and 14 in Tokyo, but 7 prefectures remain under a state of emergency and the rest of the country only opens up tomorrow. South Korea shows how even a small number of cases can explode very quickly in an open business environment, and the UK is considering reopening when it has about 350 times more cases than Korea. Absolutely insanity. There is no point of talking of a second wave when these idiot right-wing governments can’t even wait for the first wave to subside before they start creating havoc!
May 17, 2020 at 12:44 pm
Also I’ll just add, about international travel, the health ministers of China, Japan and SK met yesterday (I think; or maybe Friday) and reopening travel between the three countries was on the agenda. There is a way out of this, but it is going to involve establishing a kind of Schengen zone or EU of coronavirus, in which safe countries are allowed into the zone and everyone else is banned. I suspect that’s what the East Asian nations are planning now.
May 17, 2020 at 2:43 pm
faustus – thanks. I find these posts really useful. On travel, we can see various bubbles developing (EU, north Asian 3, Aus + NZ). I can’t see the US joining anyone’s list any time soon.
May 17, 2020 at 3:20 pm
Questions by JD have come close to my question but I’m going to ask anyway. I understand the idea of herd immunity. An infected individual entering the population likely will not encounter another susceptible individual (and if that happens the same limitations apply to the next generation) and the spread of the disease is limited. But bringing a single or small number of infected individuals into a largely immune population seems to be a very different situation from what you have been calling Johnson immunity. In that case you have vast numbers of infected individuals. The people advocating for herd immunity as a solution seem to think (but do not explicitly state) that once the population hits the herd immunity value (60%, 80% what ever) the virus just vanishes. But unlike the case where herd immunity is the starting point, the population would have large numbers of infected individuals. My expectation is that the disease would decline over time but would not magically vanish once theoretical herd immunity is reached. My math skills are far too eroded for me to follow calculations in epidemiological literature so I asking whether my intuition here makes sense. Thanks for your posts on CT.
May 17, 2020 at 5:16 pm
Thanks for commenting Dr. Hilarius. Your intuition is right, when we reach the “Johnson immunity” threshold the effective reproduction number is basically 1 and so each person will infect approximately 1 other. So if we have vast numbers of new cases the day we hit the threshold we will reproduce vast numbers of cases. Actually at this point the effective reproduction number drops very slightly below 1 after a day, so we can expect that the number of new cases on the day we hit that threshold will produce a slightly smaller number the following day, and so on. This means, as you say, that the number of new cases will decline slowly, not magically vanish.
This isn’t the case if you introduce 1 infection only at the point where herd immunity has been reached because infection is a stochastic process – some people infect 5 others, some people none. So that 1 case will likely infect 0-2 others, and then each of them 0 – 2 others, and so on, so the number of new cases each day will vary from 0 to 2 to 4 to 0. But they’ll putter around at a very low level that averages 1 until eventually the virus encounters someone who randomly infects no one else and it dies out.
This also applies to the current lockdown situation. You will see daily reports about how the reproduction number is close to 1, and this concern that if it’s below 1 everything is okay. If the reproduction number is near 1 but just below it, that means that today’s 3500 cases will be 3400 tomorrow. Not exactly a rapid decline! And we can see this in the curve of new cases for the UK, which is going down very slowly.
What makes this idea even worse is that although the mathematics of infectious diseases doesn’t change with scale (except in that early stochastic phase when there’s just 1 or 2 cases), the logistic of our response really does. To deal with the new cases effectively you need to contact trace all their contacts, test them, and isolate them quickly. If there are 50 new cases in a day that means you probably need to contact trace 250 people, test them and isolate them. That’s manageable with a good team of well-trained contact tracers. But at 3500 cases a day you’re chasing huge numbers of people every day. This means you need a huge public health capacity just in terms of boots on the ground, and you have zero room for error. A couple of missed super spreaders and the epidemic will continue. When people are locked down at home this is not too bad because the newly-infected people are likely to only infect those they live with, so slowly the epidemic will burn out even if you do nothing – and contact tracing is easy, and isolation maybe not necessary (though isolation will assuredly drive the numbers down faster). But once you open up, contact tracing becomes exponentially harder. Once the UK public goes back to work and to bars, every sick case is going to have 5 or 10 contacts that need to be tracked.
So the real judge of whether you an open up should not be the % of total cases that are being generated each day, or the reproduction number, but whether your contact tracing and isolation capacity matches the conditions. I think this is what happened in Japan – at the point where their cluster busting team realized there were more cases than they could track, and when they realized further growth would overwhelm their ability to isolate patients, they switched to a lockdown. And we are now coming out of lockdown because the capacity to isolate has increased again, and the numbers are within the capacity of our contact tracers to follow up.
The UK’s focus on reproduction number rather than the logistics of contact tracing (and the very poor general approach to contact tracing) is going to be unleash a disaster on the country in about 2 weeks’ time.
May 18, 2020 at 4:43 am
Thank you for the prompt and informative response. I see that an article in Foreign Affairs is being touted in support of the Swedish response. It’s written by two Swedish economists and one American economist (from the Koch-created and funded Mercatus Center). Amazing act of bad faith to see libertarians praising Sweden as leverage against responses to covid-19. The only reference in support of their arguments is a link to a Daily Mail article on the Swedish epidemiologist claiming herd immunity for Stockholm this month. This article is now being cited in right-wing venues are scholarly proof of the Swedish experiment. It just makes me want to weep. Again, thanks for the helpful information. My ability to manage differential equations and matrix algebra is now 40 years in the past so getting through the literature is partly an act of faith.
May 18, 2020 at 10:35 am
Dr Hilarius, it’s my hope that these reports somewhat cut through the fog by showing how epidemiology works without too much maths or distraction, I’m glad they help.
It’s really amazing to see the entire playbook for global warming denial being deployed in real time by the same organizations for the same terrible ends. They truly are despicable and shameless. Sweden is doing better than some might have expected given its circumstances but it is not the case that there is no response there – large events are banned, universities and high schools are closed, international travel is basically impossible and it is likely that a lot of people have changed their behavior to match the circumstances. But it is still stunningly bad compared to its neighbours, or to countries like Japan which did as Sweden did at first (but earlier) and stepped up to lockdown when the cases got out of control – the trajectory of the two countries’ epidemics is remarkably different. It’s a special kind of tragedy given that it would have been relatively easy for Sweden to act early with a 4-6 week lockdown and eliminate the virus, take a mild economic hit and then get back to life as usual, in step with its neighbours. It’s amazing anyone would think their response was successful … though perhaps from the perspective of the USA it looks great!
May 19, 2020 at 10:19 pm
Does anyone know of a document laying out how segregating the most vulnerable would have worked? A lot of more vulnerable people live with younger, healthier relatives or in shared housing with paid staff to help with care or just need frequent medical treatment from people outside the house. (eg. a relative needs dialysis). Segregating everyone over 60 while the rest of society lives like normal feels like something out of a game not an achievable policy (even before we think about what would happen as people’s friends get sick and die and they realize if they stay out they will get the disease and there will be no care available except from their family).
May 19, 2020 at 10:24 pm
Public health England prepared a report weeks ago showing that the disease was being spread in care homes by temp staff who move between homes. Rather than shielding the vulnerable the uk care home system has ensured they will get it. There is no way they could have shielded those people with their current system but the clowns in charge just didn’t know anything about it (of course).
May 20, 2020 at 7:34 pm
That happened in my country too: visitors or workers brought the coronavirus from home, then staff and communal dining spread it from residents in one one wing or on one floor to residents in another, and then the staff got scared and fled home leaving the place under-staffed so hygene and care suffered further. But was there any publicly available plan at all to try to deal with these issues in the UK?
May 20, 2020 at 7:41 pm
Well there wasn’t a publicly available plan, but today the Government revealed that they had a plan to prioritize the NHS over care homes, with the inevitable consequences we now see being played out. So it appears that while they were talking about herd immunity and shielding they were actually planning to push a huge death toll through care homes in order to protect the NHS from collapse. Truly, a great moment in democratic governance …
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